Leadership

Chris Ducker – The New Business Podcast

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# Episode 109 **Summary:** In Episode #109, Ari shares the Less Doing podcast with _Master_outsourcer [Chris Ducker](http://www.chrisducker.com/) of_[The New Business Podcast](http://www.chrisducker.com/new-business-podcast/)_. During their conversation, these two outsourcing gurus share their respective histories, commonly held beliefs and fun anecdotes about some of their strangest encounters with the world of outsourcing.

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**Time Stamped Show Notes:**

– 21:55 – Introduction of Chris Ducker of _The New Business Podcast_

– 22:28 – Chris has been inside the outsourcing industry for so long he can’t actually remember the first thing he ever outsourced

– 23:30 – Chris still runs a 300 person call center in the Philippines in conjunction with everything else he does

– 24:00 – Ari recalls his _first_ outsourcing experience

– 24:30 – Time consuming, repetitive, low-level tasks that are the _foundation_ of outsourcing

– 26:29 – Is there a geographic shift or pattern for outsourcing?

– 27:28 – Reference to _The 4-hour Work Week_ by Tim Ferris

– 27:50 –[VirtualStaffFinder.com](http://www.virtualstafffinder.com/)

– 28:20 – Eastern Europe is the current hotbed for developers

– 30:00 – Hire and work with a virtual assistant _at least once_

– 30:40 – _Three Lists to Freedom_

– 31:20 – Always hire for the _role _not for the one, specific task

– 32:05 – Time is the_most valuable commodity_ as an entrepreneur

– 32:25 – The definition of _success _is NOT “working your ass off”

– 33:00 – Can you_afford _not to find the time to train someone else to do your outsource-able tasks?

– 34:27 – 95% of the things you do on a daily basis can be done by other people or other things – It’s the5% that makes you unique

– 34:55 – Chris defines the some of the more _unusual_things he’s outsourced

– 39:45 – The outsourcing of legal work

– 40:33 – Accept that the outsourced employee does not have to be in the same office, let alone the same country

– 42:00 – Businesses are finally starting to realize they are _not_bound by geographical limitations

– 42:40 – There’s less and less that requires a human…automation is booming and will only continue to grow

– 43:50 – Chris reflects on the notion of a 4-hour work week and then describes his normal work week

– 47:07 – 95% of the time Chris works from home

– 47:24 – Chris only works Monday through Thursday, 20 hours a week total; but it WAS NOT always like that

– 48:25 – Up until 2009, Chris was the typical stressed out, overworked 96 hour a week entrepreneur

– 49:10 – The ultimate goal is to start working _on_ your business rather than working _in_it

– 49:40 – Chris’ Top 3 Tips for Bei — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lessdoing/message

Chris Kelly – NourishBalanceThrive

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# Episode 108 **Summary:** In Episode #108 Ari sits down with [Chris Kelly](http://www.nourishbalancethrive.com/blog/2014/02/27/christopher-kelly-bsc/) of [NourishBalanceThrive](http://www.nourishbalancethrive.com/), a digitally-based consulting firm with the end-goal of improving personal well-being by integrating the latest in modern scientific testing with age-old natural health solutions. During their conversation, Ari and Chris discuss the origins of NourishBalanceThrive, functional versus dysfunctional medicine and advantages of personal medical testing.

**Sponsored By:** Time Stamped Show Notes:

– 23:41 – The introduction of Chris Kelly, the founder of _Nourish, Balance, Thrive_

– 24:15 – Chris shares some background on his story, particularly his health issues

– 26:57 – The Auto-Immune Protocol

– 28:38 – Genetics were not the sole cause of Chris’ condition

– 29:00 – Implementing dietary changes helped Chris dramatically improve his mental clarity

– 29:30 – Functional medicine versus dysfunctional medicine

– 32:40 – Specialists in the medical field _can be _totally uninformed as to the real solution to physical problems

– 34:15 – Other than the Auto-Immune Protocol, what are the some additional methodologies used by Chris?

– 34:55 – Adequate sleep

– 35:00 – Stress reduction

– 37:20 – Exercise

– 35:18 – Adrenal stress profile and the significance of high cortisol levels

– 36:35 – Cortisol defines circadian rhythm…when you can’t fall asleep, you are experiencing a corisol spike

– 38:00 – There is only one physiological response to stress and that is to put “_long-term building projects_” (immunity, fertility, digestion) on hold

– 40:12 – The cool thing about lab testing according to Chris

– 40:56 – Organic acid testing

– 42:45 – The common supplements that people are most frequently deficient in

– 44:23 – The majority of Chris’ clients are digital

– 45:58 – What information is typically garnered from stool testing?

– 48:00 – _What are your Top 3 Personal Tips to be More Effective?_

– 48:20 – Listen to the Less Doing Podcast

– 49:05 – Break the big problem down into steps; create a pseudo code to solve problems

– 49:44 – Take time to implement improvement strategies (guided meditation, better diet, exercise, etc.)

– 50:25 – Everybody has stress and there is _no way to avoid it_

– 51:10 – Understand that more is not _more _when it comes to exercise

– 51:30 – Only do cardio in forms where you _love _it, don’t just do it to do it.

– 51:40 – NourishBalanceThrive.com – 50% discount for anyone using the code: _lessdoing_

**7 Key Points:**

  1. Diet and environment can dramatically impact performance; don’t give up on self-improvement because of poor genetics
  2. The Auto-Immune Protocol is an extremely beneficial dietary methodology for lifestyle enhancement
  3. Obtaining adequate sleep, appropriate exercise and the _right kind _of exercise is essential to achieving mental clarity
  4. Cortisol _defines _the circadian rhythm
  5. There is only one physiological response to stress and that is to put “_long-term building projects_” (immunity, fertility, digestion) on-hold
  6. Break big problems into steps (pseudo-code) in order to better find resolutions
  7. More is not necessarily better when it comes to exercise, particularly regarding cardio

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John Dumas – Entrepreneur On Fire Podcast

# Episode 107

**Summary:** In Episode #107 Ari shares a wonderful conversation with John Lee Dumas of _[Entrepreneur On Fire](http://www.entrepreneuronfire.com/)_, a 7-day a week podcast featuring interviews with successful and inspiring entrepreneurs. During the interview, Ari and John share some of the secrets behind the formation of their respective podcasts, as well as what they feel contributes to a successful show.

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**Time Stamped Show Notes:**

– 17:00 – Introduction of the _Entrepreneur on Fire_; John Lee Dumas

– 17:38 – John shares the story of how he transitioned from the life of “an army guy” to the life of a podcaster

– 18:08 – John tried a number of different careers between the ages of 26 and 32 before finding his niche

– 19:43 – The importance and difficulty of sourcing interviews for a 7-day a week podcast

– 21:40 – John had 40 episodes recorded and edited _before _going on iTunes

– 23:10 – John has remained consistent in his interview format throughout his 750+ recordings

– 24:39 – Explanation of why John publishes the EOF revenue publically on his website

– 28:27 – The process of making the _Entrepreneur On Fire_ podcast

– 32:15 – Why John chose to _not_ do transcripts

– 33:55 – Besides podcasting, John also does mentoring and runs a mastermind class

– 37:50 – John’s Top 3 Tips for Being More Effective

– 38:00 – Use _[Schedule Once](http://www.scheduleonce.com/)_, a digital scheduling tool

– 38:36 – The_ [Pomodoro Technique](http://pomodorotechnique.com/)_

– 39:07 – Skype – 39:50 – [EOFire.com](http://www.entrepreneuronfire.com/)

**7 Key Points:**

  1. It’s OK to wander and drift…without doing so, it’s that much more difficult to find a passion
  2. When first getting started in any new venture, particularly podcasting, allow yourself a buffer
  3. Do not commit to a lifestyle where you are forced to talk to people you don’t want to talk to, about things you don’t want to talk about
  4. The road to success is not easy, it requires commitment and resilience
  5. Find a strategy for success and then be consistent
  6. Transparency – whether it pertains to success or failure – can be a powerful motivator
  7. Use technology tactfully to improve efficiency

**Resources Mentioned:**

– [Oh, The Places You’ll Go](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh,_the_Places_You%27ll_Go!) – Famous Dr. Seuss book

– [Impossible](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1181257820/impossible-0) – A Kickstarter for the _first _electric bicycle that will fit in a backpack

– [NYC City Bike Share](https://www.citibikenyc.com/) – A public bike sharing program in New York City

– [CityMapper](https://citymapper.com/) – An app that will show you traveling times for walking, biking and public transit in real-time

– [Conspire](https://www.conspire.com/welcome) – An app that shows people the _best _path to getting in touch with others, _without_sending a contact request

– [Print Hug](https://www.printhug.com/) – An IFTTT-ready app that all — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lessdoing/message

Benjamin Rubin – Change Collective Podcast

# Episode 106

**Summary:** In Episode #106 Ari talks with Benjamin Rubin of the [Change Collective](https://www.changecollective.com/), a platform specifically designed to help people change themselves by creating new habits and employing technology to their advantage. During the interview, Ari and Ben exchange thoughts on the keys to facilitating change, the strategy behind the Change Collective platform and the real value of _Inbox Zero_.

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**Time Stamped Show Notes:**

– 25:11 – The introduction of Ben Rubin and his business, the Change Collective

– 26:15 – Ben discusses how he stumbled upon the importance of behavior change

– 27:45 – The types of behavior that Change Collective is looking to change

– 27:56 – Health and Wellness

– 28:09 – Personal Development

– 28:20 – Professional Development

– 28:48 – Emotional self-regulation is a behavior Ben continues to struggle with and work on

– 29:35 – Ben explains how the platform of Change Collective actually works

– 32:12 – Ben lists the five courses currently available on the Change Collective platform

– 33:55 – Ben discusses the courses to be added to the Change Collective platform in the future

– 35:27 – The techniques for staying on the most effective path

– 35:50 – There are generalities, but it’s genuinely entirely dependent on the individual

– 37:00 – Tailoring the right message to be delivered at the right time is the ultimate goal of the Change Collective platform

– 37:55 – The challenge in finding the _balance_ between going too hard and too soft in facilitating change

– 39:39 – The _Captain _versus the _Claw_

– 41:41 – Ben talks about the _timing _behind changing a habit

– 44:03 – Ari asks Ben about the importance of _Inbox Zero_

– 45:28 – Ben identifies the changes that have occurred for him after reaching _Inbox Zero_

– 46:34 – Ari explains why he sees _Inbox Zero _as a keystone habit

– 48:21 – Ben’s Top 3 Personal Tips for Being More Effective

– 48:33 – Meditation

– 49:07 – Weightlifting

– 49:33 – A daily and weekly review system

– 50:30 – [ChangeCollective.com](https://www.changecollective.com/)

**7 Key Points:**

  1. The Change Collective looks to improve upon health & wellness, personal development and professional development
  2. The path to effective change is entirely dependent on the individual
  3. Tailoring the right message to be delivered at the right time is key to facilitating change
  4. When seeking change, strike a balance between the _hard _and the _soft_
  5. _Inbox Zero_ is a keystone habit that _everyone _should prescribe to
  6. Meditation and exercise are key to being more effective
  7. Establishing a daily review system, even a journal, is a great way to track and encourage change

**Resources Mentioned:**

– [Calton Nutrition Vitamin Quiz](https://www.caltonnutrition.com/multivitamin-quiz/) – A quiz from Calton Nutrition designed to evaluate strength of your multivitamin

– [Change Collective](https://www.changecollectiv — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lessdoing/message

Tripp Lanier – The New Man Podcast

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# Episode 105 **Summary:** In Episode #105 chats with [Tripp Lanier](http://thenewmanlife.com/) men’s coach and creator of _The New Man Podcast._ During their conversation, Tripp and Ari discuss the common pitfalls facing the average man, our unhealthy willingness to “tolerate,” and the unbelievable power of “no”.

**Time Stamped Show Notes:**

– 19:48 – Ari introduces his guest, Tripp Lanier

– 20:42 – How Tripp became a men’s coach

– 21:49 – Having conversations that change people’s lives is at the core of everything Tripp does

– 23:00 – Continue to learn and continue to be coached

– 23:50 – Why specifically a men’s coach, as opposed to being a women’s coach as well?

– 25:00 – The two men Tripp deals with most:

– 25:18 – Men that have found success but not happiness

– 26:12 – Men that have relationship questions and concerns

– 28:00 – Many problems or issues are simply rooted in communication

– 28:20 – How much of your world dedicated to pleasing other people, to not letting them down?

– 29:00 – Where are you _tolerating _things?

– 29:18 – Are you engaging in relationships out of fear a fear based placed or because it’s actually important?

– 29:40 – People are too afraid that their relationships can’t survive healthy conflict

– 31:00 – What is the main fear in the average man?

– 32:10 – Men usually set up their lives to avoid conflict

– 32:30 – Listening to language is the key to getting someone to avoid their fear of conflict

– 34:09 – Do men feel overwhelmed purely out of fear, or are there other aspects at play?

– 34:35 – Defeating the feeling of being overwhelmed is impossible if a man is making himself out to be the victim or looking to play the “blame game”

– 35:30 – Men want to feel _free_

– 36:14 – A willingness to say “no” and endure temporary discomfort are key to finding what we truly want

– 37:18 – A man should not spend his life trying to carry 11 gallons of water in a 10 gallon bucket

– 37:29 – What Tripp tries to improve about himself

– 37:43 – Struggles to restrain himself from the “need to be doing more” feeling

– 39:00 – What can I do to make myself feel more _free_ today?

– 39:45 – The time is _now_; How can I create my day in the service of _now_

– 40:05 – The irony is in that today’s world of instant gratification, people will seek out everything _except _that which they _really _want

– 40:15 – It’s scary to have a blank canvas…it’s a lot easier to do what we are told

– 41:05 – Tripp’s morning routine

– 41:30 – The importance of _remembering_ who you are and what you have done

– 42:13 – Don’t get distracted by the shiny thing

– 42:50 – What Tripp offers in the way off services

– 44:28 – What are your _Top 3 Personal Tips for Being More Effective?_

– 44:49 – Have fun

– 44:51 – Know what you want

– 44:53 – Say “no”

– 45:09 – The power of “no” is one of the most difficult things to master because we are so_afraid_ of the conflict it may invite

– 45:49 – [TheNewManLife.com](http://thenewmanlife.com/)

**7 Key Points:**

  1. Continue to learn and continue to be coached.
  2. Men are frequently setting up their lives to avoid conflict at all costs…this is a mistake.
  3. Every man needs to identify where he is simply tolerating things.
  4. Dedicating oneself to the service of _now_ is key to achieving happiness and peace.
  5. Do not get distracted by the “shiny thing”, stay on-course
  6. Be willing to say “no” and endure the temporary discomfort that comes with it.
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Ronda Collier – Sweetwater Health

# Episode 104

** ** **Summary:** In Episode #104 Ari talks with [Ronda Collier](http://www.sweetwaterhrv.com/about.shtml), CEO of SweetWater Health™, a company striving to revolutionize mobile health monitoring and stress management by combining verified medical research with the most recent mobile-tech innovations. During their conversation, Ari and Ronda touch on the frequently overlooked value of Heart Rate Variability and the future of health technology. ** **

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**Time Stamped Show Notes:**

– 02:05 – Happy Thanksgiving from Ari and the Less Doing Team!

– 02:55 – Felix and Ari address tryptophan – Editor’s Note: Ari mentions that tryptophan occurs _naturally _in the body – this is **not-accurate**

– 03:25 – Tryptophan is not what makes us tired…overeating makes us tired

– 07:56 – June 9th-12th of 2015, Ari will speak at the _Fortune_ Leadership Summit

– 19:27 – Ronda discusses her background and the journey to founding [SweetWater Health](http://www.sweetwaterhrv.com/sb.shtml)

– 20:40 – HRV: Heart-Rate Variability

– 22:28 – It’s not that stress is a _bad_ thing of and in itself…it’s how quickly we can recover from that stress.

– 23:00 – Why should we care about HRV? Why even track it?

– 25:55 – [SweetBeat](http://www.sweetwaterhrv.com/sb.shtml) and how the SweetWater apps work

– 27:00 – The SweetWater and the Vital Connect [HealthPatch](http://www.vitalconnect.com/healthpatch)

– 29:57 – HRV has been used by athletes for decades to help them mitigate the risks of overtraining

– 29:05 – How can HRV monitoring work for a non-athlete?

– 30:50 – SweetBeat can alert people to everyday behaviors that induce commonly overlooked stress

– 32:10 – Meditation has _always_ been a challenge for Ari

– 33:15 – How Ronda personally uses her HRV monitoring tools

– 33:39 – _The bucket of willpower_

– 34:30 – When HRV is low; do busy work. When HRV is high; do creative work

– 34:45 – When you are “in-flow”, HRV starts to go up naturally

– 35:32 – Food sensitivity and how it relates to stress

– 39:10 – Most people are not aware of modest heart rate spikes

– 40:23 – The future of SweetBeat

– 41:35 – The value of correlation

– 43:27 – Ronda’s Top 3 Tips for Being More Effective:

– 43:43 – Improving nutrition; eating fresh

– 44:00 – Being self-aware of what’s going on inside your body

– 44:30 – Exercise, even minimally, every single day –

– 45:10 – BeatHealthy.com ** **

**7 Key Points:**

  1. The heart does not beat at a consistent interval like a metronome
  2. Stress isn’t “bad”; How we react to it – our inability to come down – is what makes it bad
  3. People who are in constant “fight or flight” mode normalize stress in their brains, which makes it difficult for them to institute change because these individuals don’t “feel” stressed
  4. Monitoring HRV is a great way to maximize recovery from physical training _and _keep track of stress
  5. When HRV levels are low do “busy work”; When they are high do “creative work”
  6. Sensitivity to certain foods can significantly impact stress and HRV levels
  7. Good nutrition, consistent exercise and self-awareness are the pillars of healthy living ** **

**Resources Mentioned:**

– [Import.IO](https://www.evernote.com/OutboundRedirect.action?dest=https%3A%2F%2Fimport.io%2F) – A — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lessdoing/message