## Summary In this episode of the Less Doing Podcast, Ari and Nick sit down for a conversation with [Professor Gary Charness](http://econ.ucsb.edu/~charness/), professor of behavioral economics at the University of California at Santa Barbara.

Listen in as they discuss Nick’s in-class experience at UCSB, the value of communication in facilitating better social outcomes, the disparity between behavioral economics, experimental economics, and game theory, and much, much more.

## Key Quote “Entrepreneurship is the only job I’ve ever been able to keep longer than five months.”

## What You’ll Learn

1. Why, if the conditions are right for it, you should live in another country.

2. The importance of following your passion, and how it will invariably lead you down the right path.

3. What Josh’s company handles.

4. How to be transparent with your clients.

5. The importance of getting the client to focus on the results.

6. The motivation behind [Josh’s book](https://www.joshsteimle.com/books/cmos-at-work/).

7. Why some clients prefer Basecamp while others prefer Trello.

8. What Josh spends most of his day (and energy) focusing on.

9. Why you should try to make yourself unnecessary. The hidden value of bringing on a partner. ——- [Get the FREE Optimize, Automate, Outsource Blueprint here.](https://go.lessdoing.com/blueprint?utm_campaign=blueprint-ari&utm_medium=link&utm_source=podcast) — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lessdoing/message